The Bandwidth Limitation - Problems and Solutions

drakos (70) in witness-category • 7 years ago (edited)

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7 years ago by drakos (70)

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dreambridge (35) · 7 years ago

I have to keep an eye on my bandwidth thru the steemd site you mentioned, as I have been strangled a number of times from a sudden drop in allotted bandwidth, and didn't even know what was happening when it first occurred. I am relatively new to the platform, but seeing people talking about issues like abusing the reward pool, whale abuse, bots, the difficulty of getting people to see my posts, and this issue, etc, is hard to all take in. I just wanted to post information and get rewarded based on quality content as seen by the community. I really like this platform, but it seems to me that it needs to stay focused on creating an environment in which original quality content rises to the top and newbies aren't strangled or turned away by all these hurdles, esp with competition like EOS, sapien, and even Facebook.

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drakos (70) · 7 years ago

I always suggest to newbies to read the FAQ first. Steem is a complicated platform and requires a learning period to understand and use it effectively. It's still a work in progress, so many things are lacking.

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dreambridge (35) · 7 years ago

Yes, that's why I'm sticking around, because I definitely see the potential and can tolerate the inconveniences if there an overall strategy to make sure the problems eventually get ironed out.

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atmosblack (63) · 7 years ago

Thanks for this awesome post, that made me nearly understand the bandwidth issue, that I have only heard of but fortunately never experienced myself. 😀

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vimukthi (73) · 7 years ago

Proud to have you voted as a witness. Personally I think 30SP or maybe 50SP delegation to new accounts until they reach 50SP on their own should pretty much most of the problems without doing anything. I mean steemit controls majority of the SP and they are not voting with them either. I never faced bandwidth issues while I was new. It'd be great to know how many people are actually facing these issues.

STEEM is like F2P games. You get the account to try the product. If you also get the product for free, that mess up the economics to make us look like Fakebook. There is no free lunch. If people are using STEEM so much, then spending few bucks to power up or buy delegation shouldn't be a problem unless they are in a very crypto unfriendly jurisdiction.

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liberviarum (50) · 7 years ago

Yeah. This bandwidth problem is quite problematic.

I first encountered the bandwidth problem when I was registering my account. Got an email saying my account was approved, clicked the link, filled a simple form, clicked the "submit" button, then there it was "Bandwidth limit exceeded" or sth like that. No support page, no email to reply, etc. When I googled it, it told me to go to steem chat or "just wait, and try again later" from a github page. I even registered to github because of this :') Well, luckily after an hour, I was accepted, then here I am.

After being on steemit for quite some time, I believe it's worthwhile to power up using own money when being hit with bandwidth limitation from time to time. However, that should not be the case for new comers. Imagine being advertised "Come to steemit, do things like you are on facebook, and get paid" and suddenly "bandwidth limitation" and people are telling you to pay (=power up) to use the platform, they could just go back to facebook. :D

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indigoocean (67) · 7 years ago

Yeah, the trust issues with that last sentence would prove problematic. I have a lot of people I'm inviting to join me here on Steemit who really trust me, but I don't think even I could sell that line. LOL

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drkent (64) · 7 years ago

Voting for you as a witness @drakos! Thanks for your service. Referred to you by @jrswab's post.

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drakos (70) · 7 years ago

Thanks to both of you, I appreciate the support.

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drkent (64) · 7 years ago

Very welcome @drakos!

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arie78 (53) · 7 years ago

Antrian panjang

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blervin (54) · 7 years ago

This is a real problem. Just a few weeks ago when I was totally new and barely had any SP, almost every day I would hit negative bandwidth at peak times, even when I had not commented, upvoted, or done anything for nearly 24 hours.

The learning curve here is insane and new users who show up and face the bandwidth limit are unlikely to even understand what that means and will quickly become discouraged.

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isnochys (66) · 7 years ago (edited)

Your allocated bandwidth formula is missing :
- delegated vesting shares

Your bandwidth decreases, when delegating SP

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drakos (70) · 7 years ago

Thanks for spotting the error. Fixed.

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bigtom13 (64) · 7 years ago

Brutally good explanation with possible solutions short and long term.

Thank you.

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admiralsp (51) · 7 years ago

I hope this bandwidth issue can be settled once and for all, it can be frustrating sometimes. I really don't understand much of what you said but I do hope the witnesses take a look so I will be resteeming this post.

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delvalle1 (41) · 7 years ago

very interesting your post! I think that for users with low SP the only solution is to immediately ration and moderate what they do inside the page.

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ivanlager (45) · 7 years ago

awesome is the word

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conradt (67) · 7 years ago

This frustrates me as a newbie as im excited to be here and contributing and exploring new content but I often cant get on and submit my new blogs (I guess I can use that time to research and create even better content tho!)

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deceth (46) · 7 years ago

Man, we've got too many bytes...

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drakos (70) · 7 years ago

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deceth (46) · 7 years ago

Yeah, and they're all evil bytes!

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bushu (57) · 7 years ago

Thanks a lot for talk about this. Now a days It's a major problem. i appreciate your thinking.

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ashe-oro (64) · 7 years ago

very informative and well written article. Thank you. I recommend using the #feedback or #steem-feedback tags.

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zizymena (59) · 7 years ago

This bandwith issue has been a menace but having explained it I understand it is a necessary evil to checkmate some certain things like spamming and all. I quite agree with the solutions you proferred especially of the bots. They do indeed leave long unnecessary comments.

Is this bandwith issue the reasons why there are no signups lately on steemit? People have been complaining of their inability to sign up.

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olawalium (74) · 7 years ago

Wow! This is detailed. I didn't understand some of them but i do pick up few things and yes, the spamming need to reduce. I experienced the bandwidth limit also today and it was annoying. I noticed it kicks in for me when i don't have any pending payout in view for couple of hours. Someone also told me about voting for more witness, didn't know how true that is. Power up still remain a realistic option for now.

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jglowsinger (58) · 7 years ago

Thanks for this info. I hope the issue of bandwidth be resolved soon because it been a concern to me. I will read your post on voting for witness as well.

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steemfluencer (53) · 7 years ago

Last time I experienced a limitation was in July 2017. Since then I've never seen that red stressful text

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indigoocean (67) · 7 years ago

I think they've already implemented one of your suggestions. When I joined almost 2 weeks ago I was delegated about 14 SP. Then a few days later I invested $100 of STEEM and powered it up to SP. My delegated SP disappeared within 24 hours! It sucks actually, because that one day my upvotes actually gave people more than a penny!

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nellita66 (63) · 7 years ago

Interesante, las recomendaciones son muy buenas, de todas formas si hacemos power up igual salimos beneficiados.

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sandrag89 (64) · 7 years ago

Thank you @drakos. That i`ts a good information. Nowday thereis a lot new people in steemit and They have a lot debut.

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jonelescalona (45) · 7 years ago

Excellent post friend, very good. You have my vote. regards

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ubikalo (56) · 7 years ago

thank you for this explanation, these are growing pains!

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pavelnunez (56) · 7 years ago (edited)

Por fin un análisis matemático completo. Gracias, he llegado un poco tarde, me hubiese gustado poder compartir este post, te lo debo para otra publicación.

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matthewthonyit (59) · 6 years ago

@drakos, I found this article written by you 9 months ago and I find it very educating, thanks for sharing this very long time ago. Knowledge learned. I Resteemed it for others to read and digest.

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