@abit Saved Your Ass on Steem And Many Don&#x27;t Know This Information, Time To Vote For @abit As Witness

themarkymark (78) · 6 years ago (edited)

First thing I did when the chain was back up was to vote @abit as witness. He really was a rock star.

Posted this on the Steemit Blog announcement thread where no mention of his efforts was made.

Prior to the fix, abit was nowhere near top 20, many of us immediately voted him to support getting him in the top 20. @cervantes even removed his own witness vote to give him room to get into the top 20.

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6 votes

offgridlife (74) · 6 years ago

I just added @abit too

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d00k13 (75) · 6 years ago

Why isn’t this information pushed to the public to understand whom is actually behind the fix? This information should be trending IMO.

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d-pend (73) · 6 years ago (edited)

Because Steemit is stagnified with hyperpowerful bidbots
because no one wants to curate manually anymore
or comprehend the concept of a gift economy.

Oh yeah, and also Team Steemit seems to prefer not releasing the "dirty details" on things. But technically people could have known about it if they went to the #witness channel on Steem.chat. A lot of us watched the developments in real time on the day the patch was found.

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8 votes

stellabelle (75) · 6 years ago

A lot of the whales were never interested in curating or blogging actually. The sooner the changing of the guard happens the better. Actually if we were really smart we’d come up with a way that the whales can earn ROI AND we fix the problems of Steem at the same time. If the dApps all adopt the built in activity points reward system much like the way Partiko does, I think we’d see different outcomes. We need a system that rewards people who comment, as it is in the commenting on someone else’s post that makes us feel feel something. I see my own comments in a sea of bot auto comments and this is the dead feeling I experience, which was not here before. A mix of bot and human comments is one thing but when I’m the only human commenter in dozens of posts well then the reward mechanism has failed.

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d00k13 (75) · 6 years ago

I see the Steem bidbots system being fixed with implementation of something like @steem-ua where it’s essentially a fine tuneable whitelisting.

Also agree with the dapps as something like @actifit will be paying out SMT tokens which is huge encouragement for physical activity nevermind commenting, now toss in a @1up hivemind system onto your dapp with that token and I think it would be a pretty impressive outcome!

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stellabelle (75) · 6 years ago

There was a time before when I perceived an element of the Gift economy in Steem. I no longer have that impression. I’d love to discuss this at some time and get your thoughts on this article I wrote about it: https://steemit.com/gifteconomy/@stellabelle/the-reason-you-don-t-understand-steemit-it-s-like-a-gift-economy-not-a-commodity-economy Mind you, when I wrote this there were no bidbots and everyone looked down on the idea of someone selling their votes. This path of Steem has a lot in common with the Tale of the Warm Fuzzies, and what’s happening with everyone wanting an immediate ROI instead of bestowing their votes onto others. We have a cancerous version that was never intended by the engineer behind Steem.

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d-pend (73) · 6 years ago

Stella, I'd love to dive into that tomorrow after I've gotten some shut-eye and my brain's working properly :-) It will be fun to trade perspectives, since you got to see the early days. I've experienced some beautiful instances of giving on this platform, too— like rays of sun through a monsoon.

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4 votes

stellabelle (75) · 6 years ago

Yes of course, take your time.

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

I swear I read you saying that blaming people for using bidbots was a little silly, and now you seem to sing a different tune, or is that only me? I wonder if you'll ever respond to the comment I've left under that certain comment of yours.

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2 votes

d-pend (73) · 6 years ago (edited)

It's a complex situation, I don't blame people because I know they are primarily motivated by greed and maximum profit. But, I also know they can choose to move towards a gift economy. You don't have to blame anyone to see that Steemit is rather stagnant at the moment. I find the bots boring more than anything. Btw, I responded to your comment. In the future make sure you tag me at @d-pend because I don't always see these under replies.

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5 votes

baah (61) · 6 years ago

It's a wishy-washy position you maintain, either you condone it, or you don't, and in this post it's hard to say you're not blaming bid bot use, where as in the other post you clearly don't have a problem with it, exactly like you've expressed above, "I don't blame people". Tell me, why don't you blame people for undermining the platform? What good is all this profit maximization when you're stance is on gift economy?

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2 votes

d-pend (73) · 6 years ago

I do think I contradict myself constantly on Steemit, because I'm usually brainstorming out loud. To be honest, after all these months—I still feel like I only understand a tiny fraction of the dynamics of how Steemit works (especially when you consider the psychological aspect, which continually baffles me.) If you don't mind continuing the conversation tomorrow when I'm more well-rested, I'd be happy to :-) In the meantime, give me some food for thought from your perspective if you like because I'm curious what you think about it.

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6 votes

baah (61) · 6 years ago (edited)

In the framework of psychology, blame, shame and condemnation alike serve the purpose of expressing the level of disagreability one has for another's actions or inactions. In the context of voteselling, and even worse, vote buying if you don't condemn it, it's either excused, or marginalized, or outright endorsed by silence or even worse by the approval and encouragement of others and as it gathers socital approval the worse and worse the practice will become. What will become of this place as this practice gains acceptance?

Many marginalized the issue or outright shifted the blame to "the code" yet this practice only happened and continues so because people with stake haven't the incentive of checking it, and thus making such abuse not profitable and therefore a fruitless or outright painful endeavor. Why do people without stake lack the incentive to check it? Because people have, for as long as steem has been around, considered that code ought to deem what is blame worthy, what is shame worthy and what's outright condemnable. It's a sad state when people aren't capable of discerning such things for themselves and it's a sadder thing that so many lack the moral witherall that they would rather coddle those who beg for code to ordain morality instead of dismissing them as nonsensical and lacking the moral fortitude and integrity and declaring that they themselves are responsible for recognizing what is good, what isn't or what is neither. So, for me, someone without the stake to actually flag such abuse, the only way out of this quagmire is to voice my complete disapproval of it or outright condemn such practice and signal to others that there's a response to abuse that doesn't require code changes, a response from those whom haven't the stake, so that maybe, no matter how insurmountable it may seem, others who have stake join in. On the opposite spectrum are those who have sung the same nonsense and have displayed a lack of integrity and do so either because they think nothing of community or of the future, regardless of what they say counter to that, or simply are disingenuous so that some abusive users will reward their support of such condemnable behavior. I find it despicable either way.

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stellabelle (75) · 6 years ago

I suspect you’re dead on. The masses often ruin their own caves by polluting it. I think that has happened.

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d00k13 (75) · 6 years ago

See no one really shares where to search for this information, thank you for the details!

I know all to well about the downfall of curation to bidbots this is why I love what Stella in doing with her contest!

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stellabelle (75) · 6 years ago

Many things should be trending that are not pushed up by bidbots....

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d00k13 (75) · 6 years ago

Yup it seems to be the only way to get noticed by even the real curators that are left, stand out from the see of crap or make friends with someone in power.

As for this whole bidbot argument, humans will be humans so I personally think something like this should have been accounted for but it is far to late to change things and inevitably unless somehow their is no ROI for investment then we will not see an end.

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stellabelle (75) · 6 years ago (edited)

Time to pay the bidbots lol

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d00k13 (75) · 6 years ago

I’ll never make it into trending at this rate.... ohh to bad 😏

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toocurious (67) · 6 years ago

I have been on Steemit for a while now and I get that people are annoyed about the bots (me too) What I don't understand is that it's still called trending on any platform (@partiko, @busy, @steempeak,...) why not rename it to paid promotion like on any other social media does (and legally has to). That way you still have the option to promote your content. Remove the promoted tab and make it clear when a someone used a service with a badge or something. Also make a filter available where you can choose whether you want to see promoted content or not.

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d00k13 (75) · 6 years ago

That works from the perspective of curation but does not address the problem of pool rewards rape relative to the use of the bots and ROI for investors, I think the fix needs to come with stipulations towards the use of the bots in the first place.

Why doesn’t the problem get directly addressed by those whom can make change? Because the majority of those in power support their use by using them!

I haven’t devised a complete solution by any means yet I do believe some correction at the developmental level is necessary. As of this moment I see bidbots as a way of appeasing the lazy whales who wish not to put in any effort towards the side of interaction to be able to get a ROI on their investments in the first place. We would need to start addressing the curation combined with a vote service relevant to the ROI for investors.

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quinneaker (74) · 6 years ago

Awesome!
Thanks for sharing this info as its something everyone should know about. Community service announcement!

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stellabelle (75) · 6 years ago

Yes no problem actually @holger80 deserves the credit

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quinneaker (74) · 6 years ago

Yes you gave him credit in the post, though I would not have seen it, only cause you posted did I see.

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justyy (82) · 6 years ago

I have voted @abit already long long time ago and I have learned and been helped a lot regarding witness, programming etc.

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9 votes

jenina619 (69) · 6 years ago

Hi!👋 I am a beginner around here just have had 12 days on Steemit and would like to know where I might find some intro about witnesses please..I read about to vote for them a lot and don't know where can I get more info..thanks!

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Read this: https://steemit.com/witness-category/@someguy123/seriously-what-is-a-witness-why-should-i-care-how-do-i-become-one-answer

stellabelle (75) · 6 years ago

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jenina619 (69) · 6 years ago

Thank you!!!😊

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stellabelle (75) · 6 years ago

Actually read mine too because it’s made for newbies: https://steemit.com/witness/@stellabelle/explain-delegated-proof-of-stake-like-i-m-5

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jenina619 (69) · 6 years ago

Ok I will, thanks again!😊

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rival (67) · 6 years ago

a well deserved vote. He saved as from a lot more stress. I just finished my witness upgrade to 20.2. Thx to @abit we could move forward again!!

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ahmedjony (52) · 6 years ago

apnader jonno khub sohoj hoye gese steemit

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curatorcat (67) · 6 years ago

I have heard good things about @abit from people who have been on Steemit for a really long time... evidently, one of his strengths is to "take action and provide solutions" when it seems like everyone else is running around doing a lot of squawking, but not effectuating change.

So that deserves a vote — fortunately, I still have a few open slots.

=^..^=

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futurethinker (61) · 6 years ago

awesome! Abit the hero in the shadows!

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pulsapulsa (13) · 6 years ago

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bichen (52) · 6 years ago

感谢大佬！！！

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herbertholmes (56) · 6 years ago

I've been making my witness votes slowly, as I don't feel entirely knowledgeable enough on all these users to make the right choices. However, I've been making them as I see them come in. As it was pouring rain here when Steemit was down and I had already been planning on spending the day on Steemit, I was pretty bummed when it went down. @abit just got my vote for getting it back up. Thank you so much <3

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xinzi (30) · 6 years ago

sounds good

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rodneysreviews (52) · 6 years ago

Thanks @stellabelle. Just voted @abit for witness. :)

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steem-ua (64) · 6 years ago

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rufans (68) · 6 years ago

That's so true 💯
I read about it on Steemitblog article (comment )
Thanks @abit

Stellabelle and Partiko tho 😂

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jaydih (79) · 6 years ago (edited)

Thank youfor sharing this @stellabelle.
I vote for @abit now, too.

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ace108 (76) · 6 years ago

Already done long time back. :-)

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yellowbird (68) · 6 years ago

支持@abit

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