Hello my dear Steemians,
Today I noticed that one of the user tagged me and of course I went to check. The user found a post that was completely copied and pasted as his own although at the end it was a ref. to the original article. Often we see such posts and they are left unnoticed and people do not really care about. This case was different and I can completely understand the user who dropped me comment as the post that is not the original but received support from our Steemit Witness @justyy. Therefore, I just wanted to check how it was possible and why the Witness now giving support for something that in my eyes does not deserve Upvote.
We all know @justyy is the Steemit Witness and also programmer, he is supported by the Steemit Team and has delegation from their account @misterdelegation 500K
Recently he also started to provide Upvote for delegation, actually the same service that is provided by the accounts that the Steemit Team does not like the users to use:
I remember the explanation in one of my query I received an answer:
If everyone who has Steem Power will delegate to such Services then who will support the other smaller users i n communities?
I agree with this point and from our side we never even thought to delegate for Upvote, but when I just looked at the @justyy's account I really do not see any difference between him and the other Upvote for Delegation services. Actually, I am wrong the difference is he is a Steem Witness
and programmer
I just looked at very few from today, because there is constantly almost every hour the delegation goes in, why? Because it is accepted by the Steemit Team
Let's just look at this three users and their blogs. They all:
- have same structure: one photo and the links
- they all produced posts the same moment but also they all three delegated the same time
- if you look into wallet all 3 about 23-25 days ago have received transfer from exchange and Powered up in order to Delegate.
I have suspicion that the accounts belong to the same person
Last two posts:
The content looks like that, there is a photo and just links to previous posts
Now the other user
Now if we come back to the post that was mentioned. The user is taking the articles from Internet and copying them directly into his post even with pictures and presenting as his posts and getting automated Upvote from @justyy because of his Delegation.
The first post is taken from Internet source with Copyright seal:
https://food.detik.com/info-kuliner/d-4083491/ini-cara-goreng-ikan-agar-hasilnya-garing-dan-renyah
The second post is also from Internet and also at the end Copyright reserved.
Once again I am returning with this question to @steemcurator01 and the Steemit Team:
- If the services like @upvu, @gotogether, @nutbox are OK to use? If not...
- why then you support @justyy with delegation from @misterdelegation and encourage him to Upvote for Delegation
- the number of people who delegate to him is growing hourly
@justyy, when you decide to Upvote the users do you check if they are scammers of of you simply upvote them because they have delegated to you?
I am asking that because when @xpilar created @bitvote and with the earning from it the users of Steem getting WOX-helpfund. @steemcurator01 was against it, even through now so many users received donation each time between 500-1000Steem.
I know that @stef1 is very uncomfortable user and often asking the questions that many people think but are not dare to ask aloud, but I am just direct person and tell what I think. Maybe that is because of living in Democratic country makes us to feel free to express our opinion and to tell the truth I am proud of it.
Hope you have a lot of stuff to digest, dear readers. But do not worry soon is my holiday is over and then I will not have much time for Steemit anyway.
At the end I wanted to share the opinion of user that I believe we all share.
I've been seeing a lot of criticism of the SC01 team lately. Sometimes it may be justified, but observing the actions of the team and the rare cases when they enter the discussion, I can conclude that the SC01 team is acting solely in the interests of the platform.
In a response to @papi.mati, the SC01 team noted that historically, all initiatives and developments have been initiated by the community. Responding to the lack of development, the SC01 team responded that they monitor and support the work of @coding-gorilla and other developers. From this we can conclude that the Steemit team, although it has the greatest resources, wants the platform to develop decentrally again. Why? Because it will attract people and investors here.
We also know that the SC01 team does not support bid bots and does not vote for posts supported by bid bots. Then why don't they block them? The answer here can be obtained by mentioning that they act exclusively in the interests of the platform. If they block the bid bots, it will lead to massive Power Down and STEEM sales, and consequent depreciation. This can lead to the death of Steemit. Given this, it can be assumed that the SC01 command tolerates the existence of bid bots, but does not approve of it.
In the case of justyy, I assume that the witness received such support due to the fact that until recently there was a catastrophic shortage of developers. There aren't many of them now, but they are appearing little by little.
In general, after the split, Steemit is gradually recovering and now making sharp movements is very dangerous. On the other hand, such a soft policy supports injustice, when those who make an effort earn much less than those who use bots. Just imagine, if there were no upvu, tipu and others, how many SP would be involved in the curation of content, in Curation Trails and others. Then talented bloggers could make really good money, and that would attract more and more new authors.
Of course, the activity of bid bots can be adjusted with softer steps. For example, oblige them to pay STEEM not to shareholders but to community curators, impose fines for plagiarism, etc.
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The simplest solution has already been introduced. Delegating to justyy excludes from booming - I have in my community at least 5 users who canceled the delegation to that witness after they heard from me that they could earn more if they wouldn't share their SP with that sort of accounts.
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I the cases above there are spammer and not ordinary users, I do not know if you have looked closer into the blogs
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I see how in some communities sc01, sc06 supports mediocre posts by the same community members, especially if they are admin, but there is a complete disregard for quality content. It turns out that no one needs high-quality posts on Steemit. Who does upvote on behalf of sc01, sc06?
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Maybe they support the admins because they do other important work. I'm not saying that's right.
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probably, yes. 😂😂😂
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I agree that in the past the initiatives were initiated by communities but each of those projects let's come back to Steemcleaners got a delegation from old @misterdelegation. That account delegated for such work. In this case they also delegated from this account but unfortunately the person is not checking who he is supporting. That is what was pointed in this article.
I also have not suggested any sharp movements, actually there was no suggestion of anything.
But that it was a question: why if one system of Upvote for Delegation is bad then another one that is running by Witness is good?
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Your question is very interesting. But I don't expect us to get an answer.
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We are probably the only one who has such a service to help with donations to needy people through our @bidvote which gives 30% of the profits to @wox-helpfund for this project
We also have our own blacklist and we have closed out a number of users who can no longer buy upvote for their posts
I am not against bidding robots, but there should be requirements to be able to run such services, such as a blacklist that excludes abuse of the service they can buy for their post
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Blacklist is something that must be in the system. There always will be people who would like to use the benefits on different costs. Like everywhere there should be controlling mechanism.
That reminds me once again how Facebook and Twitter block Trumph and his fake news. This is another example of abusing such services and there is a mechanism to stop abuser.
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I know that @justyy has a blacklist and if a list of users that are abusing is provided, then I'm sure that @justyy will add them to his list (as he has done recently with another spammer).
The delegation is interesting and the indirect and unintentional consequence that it's supporting plagiarised content saddens me. Before @endingplagiarism stopped, a request for a delegation was made but rejected and to paraphrase - "All power is currently delegated to steemcurator and booming accounts to support the community. We do not have more to delegate and recommend seeking support from the community."
🤷♂️
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I hope he still has his blacklist, but as usually it is that all requires time and work and as we know, people long term stop checking.
The system to fight abuse is essential and like any regulation organ should not be organised by individuals and as a payment Upvote for posts, that will be then "witch hunt" for the sake of posts and rewards
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Please keep your support @stef1 🙏🏻🤗🤗
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Thank you very much @stef1, I am very happy with the information you share. And I hope the Steemit team responds well, so that justice can be served. Actually there are many cases of plagiarism, but not reported. I like your firm way of reporting every fraud on Steemit. I want you to stay long on Steemit, don't say goodbye, because we really need people like you to eradicate all forms of plagiarism.
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I am glad to hear your reaction, who knows how other people react to it but like you say there should be a mechanism to report Abuse on Steem, because how then such abuse should be detected. Often I think that maybe it is an intention and carelessness if it is simply overseen.
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Sometimes we don't feel good when we report someone that he or she stole someone else's work, even with solid evidence, because we are thought to like to meddle in other people's business. But when we see he gets big upvotes, I think it's inappropriate, because he took other people's articles. But if this is allowed to continue, it can lower the Steemit rating
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Very well and correctly said!
But it doesn't look like a "battle with windmills"?
There is such a rule: "Кто девушку ужинает, тот её и танцует".
Кит никогда не услышит планктон.
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Not many talk about uncomfortable topic, mainly because you can't change the running system and from another side people will stop receiving High Upvote from @steemcurator01 for critic. That is why many will avoid to talk about that. I do not care about it, it is expression of thought and opinion, it is done openly on Steemit and as before I am posting exclusively on Steemit and doing 100% Power Up.
Кит никогда не услышит планктон-but definitely will read of course the reaction will be NIL.
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I'll just say: +100500 👍👍👍
What is your opinion - how long will the club5050, 75, 100 work?
Fat wallets are waiting for a good price for steem, so that they can then withdraw funds in hard currency?
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I think it will continue to run until on one day there will be another project that will be promoted and clubs will die off themselves. I do not think the Team will stop them officially. But for me it seems that it is inevitable that people will Power Down as the Value of Steem is falling
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And I think that as the cost of steam increases. Endlessly, people will not increase their SP. They will want to sell tokens.
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