Distribution of reputation levels 2017-12-27 / Verteilung der Reputationslevel 27.12.2017

in steemit •  7 years ago 
Currently there are more than 530000 steemit accounts, but over 80 percent still has the starting reputation level 25.

I've visualized the distribution of the reputation levels. The numbers at top of the cuboid are the reputation level and the number of accounts with that level.
Aktuell gibt es mehr als 530000 steemit-Accounts, aber über 80 Prozent haben noch immer den Start-Reputationslevel 25.

Ich habe die Verteilung der Reputationslevel in der folgenden Grafik visualisiert. Die Nummern auf den Oberseiten der Quader geben den Reputationslevel und die Anzahl der Accounts mit diesem Level an.

rmp_reputationlevels20171227.png
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Also you can see, the current minimum reputation level is -18 and the maximum reputation level is 78.
Wie in dem Bild zu erkennen ist, ist der minimale erreichte Reputationslevel zur Zeit -18 und der maximale Reputationslevel 78.


For comparison, the diagram of 2017-09-17:
Zum Vergleich das Diagramm vom 17.09.2017:

rmp_reputationlevels20170917.png
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  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Steemit almost needs another system added, like an "attendance" rating.

For example, Accounts would start at 100 Attendance, and 100 would be the highest rating you could have. each day that you posted something or made a comment/reply, you would gain 1 Attendance. If you don't post something for a day, you lose 1 Attendance.

This would incentivize people to keep at it, and would help see just how many of the 25 rating accounts are dormant.

The problem with this is that spammers could easily level this attendance rating up. The value of that score would become kind of useless.

Also, don´t post something every day. Have a (real) life. ;-)

What an insane graphic. When you see it like this, it really puts everything into perspective! Thanks for sharing!

This is a great visual representation. It really helps to put the reputation levels in perspective. Why are there so many accounts that remain at 25 though? Are they just not being used? I am a bit confused by that.

yes this greal visual

There are many acounts that are created, but never used, because the long time between registration and creation of an account. Also there are many authors that post some content, but never get enough upvotes to reach level 26 or more.

I'm new to Steem. I had browsed the site for a bit before signing up for an account. Honestly, I had forgotten about the site between the time I signed up and got approved. There has to be a faster way of verifying accounts. What is the process for them to do so? How can it be accelerated?

Similarly, I found the lag time a bit discouraging.
I suppose the diagrams above potentially support the need for checks and balances, though, to (perhaps optimistic to suggest it) limit the capacity for creating multiple or automated accounts.

I think the big lag relies upon that the team is still approving accounts personally. It takes more time because they don't want to just verify your account/your email address but they also want that good content is posted on this site. This is especially important for the young age of this platform and I, therefore, think that it's good to take some time before approving/verifying accounts. Also, you have to consider that, if a "spammer" signed up, he wouldn't want to wait for days to be verified.

True enough.

I suppose that the latency between account registration and account creation means some people lose interest and never come back. And then there is the other group that becomes frustrated with little to no rewards immediately and just quit. Still, it seems like A LOT of people for 25 reputation haha...

How did you find these stats @cryptoriddler?

P.S.: It's great you're posting in both English and German

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Steem-python would be good to read a post on. ....Ah there is a good one here https://steemit.com/steem-dev/@jesuscirino/steem-python-step-by-step-1-getting-started

Well done and helpful @cryptoriddler. Thanks for sharing this in such an easy to understand way.

The lag is not as bad as other "exclusive" social medias though, a day or so is managable for the fickle flock.
Ello took months, and was not worth the wait.

How many upvotes you need to reach level 26?

There is no fix number of upvotes someone need to reach level 26. If the votes comes from new small accounts you need more than 100 upvotes for this one level. But if the upvote comes from a big whale account, you need only one upvote and got a higher level as 26 after that.

Thats right ... i needed 12 days to get my account activated ;-)

that's right it took 12 days to activate my account

I created my account yesteray, and I wanna make it great, lvl 29. Steemit is a great Platform :)
Ich bin seit gestern registriert und ich will den Blog groß machen. Die Plattform ist der Hammer :)

Some are simply bogus, look at their wallets and posts, they are being funded by whales for controlling other users, in unethical ways. You will notice some have no post or blog, yet they have been funded over $25,000. Its my opinion that Facebook entities are manipulating Steem, as it is in competition for users. Facebook has the money to buy Steem and manipulate user payouts and create problems. facebook has advertising and tracks every user. Steemit pays users for their posts and has no advertising, but there is disagreement over the payout ethics.

Nice analysis...

Do you really think Steem would even be on facebooks radar? Facebook is a giant and I can't imagine is that afraid of getting replaced anytime soon.

Facebook is a nothing more than a data collection tool for people to reveal their everyday activites, reveal who their freinds and relatives and employers are, then sells the data to marketing companies, local, state federal and foreign governments. If Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, or Mao Tse' Tung had facebook- they could have taken over much, much easier. Just look at how many people have had family disputes and lost jobs or other things from some random comment they posted on facebook. One of my freinds daughters was arrested and kept in jail for over a week after she said something trivial on facebook, which was just an emotional female outburst after her boyfreind broke up with her. After her stint in jail, and my freind (The father of the girl) came home and found the police searching his house- the whole family got off facebook. Zuckerburg makes his money from collecting data on people all over the world, thats why he would fund such activities to disrupt our peaceful community- because the blockchain offers us some protection, for now, at least, where we are free to speak our minds. Mark Zuckerburg is the Heinrich Himmler of the 21st century, collecting data from the sheeple who havent figured out that they are just writing their own dossiers on themselves. I remember a time when we used to call each other on the phone, and talk- like people. Now some parents can only communicate with their kids by texting and using emoticons, which is ridiculous- I witness this daily. Imagine if facebook and the internet shut down- how many teenagers and adults who lack the abilitiy to communicate eye to eye and face to face would have emotional breakdowns. Facebook is an addictive form of communication that dehumanizes the masses, and I for one dont get on facebook- ever. Follow the money. Opinons vary.

Spot on, you nailed it!

Great way of looking at things!

I agree with you @marcoagarcia3rd great way of thinking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg <--- Read about Zuckerburg- he used to go to college with the winklevoss twins, who own Gemini.com- the biggest cloud mining platform and they sued him for misleading them about his intentions of facebook. Mark Zukerburg bought some land in Hawaii, and then tried to force all the indiginous natives who had lived there for generations to sign over their land rights to him and leave. Nice guy- NOT.

thank you for this information
I do not think Zuckerberg is a good guy

If you don't count the custom google search ads that is ;)

oh my good really?

This is brilliant, thanks for the post! And great choice for the visualisation :)

Where did you find the data?

gathered the data with steem-python

oh right I saw you mentioned that in another comment, didn't understand that's where the data was from as well. Thanks!

Great data. I'd be curious the comparison of reputations against when people joined. Are you simply looking at a cohort analysis of starting dates, or are you looking at cumulative interaction of users?

Such a comparison of reputations against when people joined is a good idea. Let's see if I can implement that.

That may be hard to calculate give that I was approved in less than twenty four hours whereas the person who turned me onto the site said it took him several days to get approved. I don't know why it took him so long compared to me, I do have a very high rep on another discussion forum but that reputation comes from the comments and how you relate to other people. That may be what the problem is here. Most people coming from other forums reputations are build on the you communicate with other people not based on a monetary reward. I had a hard time dealing with that and I've only been here for four days or so. I don't even know why I am still here or decided to keep going, frustration with site ownership turnover at the old forum sites maybe has more to do with it but even then I had to weight my feelings of my comments being considered worthless now that they had a monetary value attached and no upvotes. Lots of people are on forum sites because it gives them a outlet, a connection to other people and that just means more to them then money.

I hear you @sunlit I'm also new here and still figuring the site out gradually. It is as if we are all strangers meeting in this Steemroom, no one knows anyone so we just make friends with strangers, but until then few people to befriend, or very few read our posts and we wonder how to get upvoted, how to make Steem or how to get credits.
I appreciate those who share knowledge on the way.

Newbie here, i know the feeling. Still not knowing how things work. And advice from anyone is very much appreciated.

This is Great. But How to Increase Reputation Level.

The level increases through upvotes you get. So be active, write articles and comments. Maybee it helps when you use services like SteemFollower.

Thanks @cryptoriddler, I was wondering how to get my posts read, how to make some progress here on Steemit. I see some profiles are just spammers or scammers, trying to milk the system but not offering any creative or knowledgeable content. Some are probably bots or trolls or whatever, as you mentioned above.
So I appreciate your genuine sharing. I was approved quickly enough, but still learning what to actually do on the site to progress, to get readers, what to speak of votes or credits (secondary), so you have helped a lot.

Man thanks for taking the time to visualise this for us my wife and I really appreciated being able to see that although we are but humble minnows we have already gained a reputation 44 and 46 that so many never reach.

So I'm of to keep working on that rep :)

You sir are more than welcome to my tiny 0.02 upvote.

Have a great day
Kind Regards
Peter

Wow, you do have a high reputation. Just keep at it!

Very useful article. Thank you for sharing.

Thanks for these surprising stats. Im curious how many of those profile are dead and how many logged in last month... anyway it looks like we should help 25ers even more in order to help steemit grow.

I will continue to investigate what is going on with these many 25s.
What I find out, is that the first step from level 25 to 26 is much bigger, than the step from 26 to 27.

it just counts all (25) profiles that were created but never really used.. most users just try one post and if it doesnt work they give up..

Just a shot from the hip here, but I would guess there are a lot who took a look at the platform and thought "eh, I'll sign up. Can't hurt," and then just never got interested enough to sign in again.
For instance, I opened my account a few weeks ago but didn't post anything until yesterday because as soon as I saw there was a crypto involved I felt like I had to go research "what in the blazes is a cryptocurrency" before even posting. I was afraid I'd wind up losing money.
Others may be more tech-savvy than I was, but I would imagine the phenomenon of "hey, new website! Cool!" and then never returning again, is probably commonplace. With more traditional social media platforms, such an account would simply go offline after being dormant for X number of days, but with Steemit I don't even know if that is possible, and that's a bit of a problem (or so it seems to me, without a lot of knowledge on the subject) because with every new user automatically being issued an amount of STEEM when they open an account, isn't there a lot of this currency just sitting around?
And if that's true, doesn't that have an impact on the value of the currency (to say nothing of the value of the site experience itself)?

Thank you for this informative post. Do you have the raw data available as in a file. It would be interesting to have the number of accounts dependent on reputation level and age.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Love my Steem feed but this needs to get promoted so I used the only penny of SBD I had to do just that. I feel like if everyone participated more, this whole crypto space will take off, Steemit being a major catalyst. Upvoted, resteemed.

Love this! Now if we could just figure out how reputation works, as we have zero clue. But we DO have a new clue about who Satoshi might be...

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@harpooninvestor/did-nick-szabo-solve-nick-szabo-s-biggest-bit-gold-problem

nice diagram!

why is it that the such a large number are at the starting level?

They are not active enough, to build some reputation.

As a new user I am still trying to grasp Steemit. I never really noticed that the number 25 was next to my account! I'm sure this will hep many newcomers and inspire them to raise their reputation score. It inspired me!

Useful artical

hi soy nueva en esto pero igual muy interesante tu publicacion

What happens to your account when you interact with someone whose reputation is -1? Does it matter? I'm new to the community...

As a noob to Steemit I found this post very interesting. Cheers to everyone trying to crack 25+ in 2018!

I didn't know that many people where on Steemit.

It does kind of make sense to me that a lot of people would have the starting reputation, since maybe they don't post or make an account and just "lurk."

Still, a very interesting find!

Nice

folback please, read back my works, ok

my goal 78
78-47=31 :)

wow, you reached two more level in two days. Now only 29 level until you reach your goal.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

In two weeks i moved from 25 to 40. I plan to keep growing.

keep it up

The most of all members is new comers including me :)
I've followed you and voted.. Have a nice day.. from Korea, @mircokim22

Hello, thank you for the post, it is interesting to see how the users are distributed in terms of reputation. It caught my attention the negative values, I understand the fact that someone does not or can not increase reputation, but how could someone lose it?

Someone can lose reputation if he gets downvotes.

I will reach 50 even if it takes me an eternity . I'm thinking of calling il ragazzis and my homie vito🔫🕵🏽, so that we pay Steemit Inc. a visit, Nah just joking We love you steemit Inc 😍.

“Patience is a key element to success.” Just keep faith!

There are also cases of downvote vigilante packs who can take down one's reputation in a targeted campaign because of a single comment made.

There are also people making fake accounts for the purpose of trolling projects that they where removed from for unethical behavior such as the ^^^freetroll^^^ account

Now we're getting somewhere. If you're referring to me, I have never been involved in any project here and this is my first and only account. freetrog was chosen for a name because I thought 'treefrog' (an animal I've always liked) then changed it up to make it more unique. I did make one comment in a thread about superior coin and the guy not being very polished in that particular video, which was unnecessary in hindsight. Everything else I commented on or replied to elsewhere was unrelated. I've watched a handful of people downvote everything they could of mine since. At any rate, thanks for commenting why this has been happening. I've seriously been racking my brain to explain why the organized effort.

Nathan Is a genius who not only has coded superior coin and many other projects he also stepped up and save a few thousand people from getting scammed out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. You should not be bashing or accusing someone you know nothing about of being drug Fu*ked faced!

I mentioned my thought on the video, not on his total mental prowess. Wish I could take it back now not because of the backlash but because it's lumped me in with prior persons I've got shit all to do with. What was meant as a critique on public speaking became a fucking witch hunt on me, and I'm really new to this platform. So new that I've considered powering down in my short time here to pull out my 250 bucks. I get that I should have kept my thought to myself. It wasn't constructive the way I put it. But to be set upon by a pack with no explanation until a day ago really rubs me as wrong as I probably rubbed you all wrong. I've read the Q&A's and it suggests getting into chat to work out these things but I'm still clueless about this platform, operate on an android phone, and my fingertips are clumsy. This has already cost me 15 minutes. You lot have negated virtually every honest or kind word I've said here apart from that one unfortunate earlier bit. I said "came off as drug fucked". I didn't say he was drug fucked. You lot sent me from 31 down to 6 because of that. I would have been fine wearing a few neg points for what I said but it didn't end there. Everything I ever said got negged. That's bully bullshit. Not cool. Not kosher. Not on. It's part of the reason why I haven't made my own introduction thread. I keep wondering if someone is going to show up every couple of days to make me -1 or worse.

You had your account flagged because it was a new account who made a derogatory comment on your first day to a project that gets trolled by a disgruntled team member. Nathan has stated not to flag anymore of your content unless its related to the project.

It wasn't my first day and we agree to disagree on what derogatory versus critical is. Thanks for ending the bs though.

Regardless it was one of your first post and was your first days on here making your account look very close to a typical troll account used. You should thank Nathan he's the one that said to stop i think everyone else wanted to flag you into oblivion!

Yes, this is happening, unfortunately peoples votes are being manipulated, due to some unethical disagreement over payouts. What it says you have and what you actually get are two very different things.

great post, cryptoriddler as usual!

Very informative! thanks for information.

Good research

This is another piece that helps clear the water for us minnows.

Good

Good research ...and true words
As people understand steemit more and more
There will be a transition. And a sudden change in this distribution of reputation

That i great

Being new to all this, I'm not sure what all this means. BUT, I just hit 26 in three days. Is that good? Hell, I don't know. It took me three dates just to get to 1st base with my wife. LOL! 42 years ago.

Yeah, and now you already have reached level 27. Keep it up.

Buen post. Y'a te vote. Ayúdame.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Good research worrk.I congratulate you...

@cryptoriddler kommst aus DE oder warum auch auf deutsch übersetzt ? Danke für dein Post !

Ja, ich komme aus Deutschland. Aber da es hier nur relativ wenig deutsche Nutzer gibt, schreibe ich parallel in englisch.

Cool... Ich hoffe es werden mit der Zeit mehr.

Very cool! Are you willing to share the raw data? It would be fun to play around with

Here are the data from level -20 to 79 as text, so that you can use it:
[ 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1,
4, 2, 10, 3, 6, 44, 26, 37, 56, 253,
320, 113, 107, 118, 111, 150, 143, 219, 261, 173,
195, 265, 213, 262, 342, 253, 211, 597, 305, 366,
208, 213, 193, 231, 296, 424942, 5098, 5936, 5061, 4882,
5097, 4768, 4559, 4173, 3886, 3841, 3774, 3603, 3497, 3254,
3201, 3058, 2943, 2794, 2378, 2283, 2015, 1951, 1908, 1846,
1847, 1714, 1505, 1545, 1361, 1120, 924, 867, 716, 579,
523, 419, 381, 326, 225, 198, 159, 134, 110, 78,
70, 35, 36, 24, 14, 10, 3, 3, 1, 0]

How dose one get to lvl -18?

By publishing content that others does not like (spam, beg for upvotes, plagiarism, ...) someone can get many downwotes / flags. And when someone get many downvotes the reputation can become negative.

Great stats! My goal is to push for 70 by the end of 2018.

Have a good day!

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I think a lot of people may not understand Steem, and aren't willing to put the time in. They create an account and say "I don't get it" and bail.

I'm new and I wasn't sure what I got myself into at first, but the more you dive in the better it gets!

fantastic

nice

Many got to know about steemit accidentally, they might not know how it works, that's why the starting level is up to 80%.

güzel bir istatistik olmuş emeğine sağlık :)

I suppose people were frustrated because the results did not come immediately and they did not insist on persisting, perhaps because their expectations were different. Excellent analysis, I congratulate you for this study of achievement in reference to the levels. I am very interested in level up and I would like to receive suggestions if you kindly give them to me. Greetings friend steemit.

I'm a loserrrrrrrrrrr.

good post, how to increase reputation.

I am from artistdiscovery. I’m new to steemit but wanted to ask what milestones were important for people to pass and what day to day work did it take for you to get past those steemit milestones?

Well I am in that over 80 percent that still has the starting reputation level. I have a lot of wok to make. Greetings.

Activity is the secret word ;)

Thank you for following me.

Good observation

This is the chart I follow from @archange's daily reports. It's very upsetting to see. I work hard to help people in between 40-55 to grow because we have so few.

archange user reps dec 23 2107.PNG

This is a great visual representation

Very interesting! Thank you for posting :)

That's a really interesting concept.

Do you build this reputation by scaling out or scaling up? Would you be able to do both?

Connect them all?

I used the cube root of the numbers to calculate the height of the bars.

i really dont why steemit take a longer time creating accounts, i had actually forgeten about my registration untill i saw their email.

They need so long, because it is expensive to create a new account. They have to pay an creation fee and also they have to delegete some steem power to each new account.

It was a great analyze, but also a little hard to understand to me, and it would be same to other new-bies. Can you give me some tips to level up the Reputation Level?

The only way to level up the reputation level is to get upvotes. So be active, post unique content, comment posts from whales, ...

oh,,, thx! got that

This is a very good information!!!

Good👍

nice visual representation.great data.really helpfull

Big fan of the dual language posting! Keep it up

Wow, amazing work you done there, does that mean most users are stale account?

Sure, there are many inactive accounts, but I dont know, if they are the majority. There are many active accounts, that does not get enough upvotes to reach the next reputation level.

I'll reach that 78 level eventually. I'll even bust through it! Just you watch! :P

Thanks for the post! Best diagram Amazing.

I am new in Steemit, kindly tell me any Steemit applicaion for android mobile?

I like all this information. The graphs give us a clear information. Greetings.

Thanks @ryptoriddler. As a new member who has been active in other platforms, this data gives me some deeper insight into steemit. Thanks for the brain food!

As a newbie, this post (and corresponding comments) have been quite insightful. Thanks for sharing.

This is a really great article. I didn't realise there were so many accounts with lower reputations. It makes me feel a little better about my new account and less like a minnow swimming in a pond of whales.

Thanks for the stats..puts everything in perspective. It takes persistence, faith in the platform and a lot of hard work to get your reputation up there unless you have money to invest or friends with deep pockets. Lol. We all start out ready to go full steem but too many just get discouraged and drop out. I'm still hanging in there, but each increase in level gets harder. Seems like everyone with the bucks are asking for more bucks just to get upvotes or resteems. And the rich get richer and the poor can't afford it. Me, I'm just hanging in there and meeting people like yourself who truly care and appreciate my posts. Resteeming my friend.

This all kind of pisses me off to read. Not what you or others are commenting. In fact thanks. The actual moral implications mixed in with a technological concept I still can't fully explain on the other hand boils my blood some. The ignorance I can carry the weight of as it will only get lighter. But the fact that fate here allegedly depends on luck and or greased palms as much as it does in the non-steemit pre-blockchain world saddens me. That's not how I imagined things to be after an advancement was proclaimed in the name of economics. Why I say luck might only be because adjustments have been made recently, but if not my account was approved in under 24 hrs. Lucky me? I certainly should have been a debatable account if an account at all.

Then the more you help those 50000+ you would get more upvots visavie more $$$$$.

Que tal podrías hacer que tus publicaciones se traduzcan al español también, estaré publicando gráficos de las mejores criptos, igual puedes seguirme.. saludos.!

Throught this post i learned something .
Thanks a lot

Great post, thanks pretty much. That's a huge number, maybe this post should get some higher value?

Yeah, I agree, this post should get some higher value, but most of my followers are still quite small and the value of a single upvote of them are not much.

Site still needs alot of improvements.

Site still needs alot of work

Nice post, hw do we climb up the ladder?

be active

Good hob dude. Very nice click posting

Yes crypto is effective to earn money. And thats is a need our need.

I plan your name in 2018 myself, free to see it. happy New Year!

Happy new year~~

Thanks for visualization. Its puts the scores in a nice perspective for me. Hope to read more from you in the future.

ADIOS 2017 Y BIENVENIDO 2018 CON MIS AMIGOS DE LA COMUNIDAD STEEMIT

TARJETA STEEMIT.jpg

Good work on this, I like the visualization.

This is awesome! @cryptoriddler

Its so cool to see how you used steem based tools to analyze steemit demographics. I'm wondering if there are any other such tools or applications that do just that? Would be cool to see steemits growth.

thank you dear

wow,, great visual representation
@cryptoriddler

Hy friend, Good Job. Please dont forget transfer some for me. Thanks my friend

Nice post. Actually when I read it for the first time today among the posts from my feed I was (25). Now I am (26). There is hope.

And now two days later you are (27). Keep it up.

I could say 'I am working on it' but it is getting dengerously close to an addiction.

Just look at me now friend :)

carry on your struggle dear

it is very useful for the upcoming followers and they can analyze easily.

cool, schöne statistik! bitte mehr davon!

Very interesting post @cryptoriddler!

wow you have nicely presented it..you have put a great effort to represent it visually..very useful info to us..thanks alot for your commitment :)