Hello Steemians, as part of our strategy for improving the economic sustainability and decentralization of Steem, we are selectively rolling out advertisements on steemit.com. This is only an experiment and no final decisions have been made with respect to the use of ads on steemit.com.
Despite the seemingly high level of support for ads, we understand that many users might not be comfortable with the idea of ads on steemit.com which is why we are proceeding with a small test.
The Steemit Team
If and when you guys roll out advertisements, can we implement some kind of revenue sharing model for bloggers? I think that would go a long ways in attracting and keeping talented content creators much better than we have thus far. I think overall you guys would end up making MORE money with revenue sharing than if you kept it all because our numbers would be that much higher. A smaller slice of a big pie may end up being much more valuable than getting the whole pie, if it stays very small. Something to think about...
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You would be super surprised at the amount of crap traffic that would be generated because of this and how many people will try to game/cheat the system it wont work.
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Pretty sure people try and cheat/game the system any where this is implemented yet they figure out how to make it work regardless.
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@steemitblog @ned as long you put ads that won't appear on browsers using adblock, no one will be angry at you for making some $ with ads.
Those who hate ads won't be annoyed by them. But those who are indifferent, or even enthusiastic for Steemit Inc to generate cashflow without flooding the market with coins will check the ads out, and likely occasionally click on them.
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If we get ads going, does that mean the automated steem selling can stop or at least slow down?
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I support this, we also desperately need revenue sharing with bloggers.
It is the best way to get influencers over here and keep them here. They will also bring with them large audiences which will boost your advertising revenue.
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The Rev share would come from the increase in steem price there's no reason to delegate it out to certain people it would honestly destroy the system. So many sites have gone into rev share with content creators and ended up shutting down over the abuse that happens from it.
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Why would there be an increase in the STEEM price? Seems like there wouldn't be any connection to ads. Steemit, Inc would make out okay and be able to pay their bills. That's the only benefit I see for users.
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Which sites are you referring to specifically?
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Many have done this already they don't exist anymore because they went belly up from abuse and just flat out spam.
TSU would be the most recent example of this
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Being able to monetize in a similar way to youtube, twitter, instagram etc. is crucial for getting and keeping influencers here. If the steem upvote model worked, we would have much better results after 3 years 'in the wild'.
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Agreed monetization has to happen but it should simply go towards covering costs and increasing the value of steem itself. Not as a rev share depending on how many views likes etc I get
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My contention is that if money is awarded to better blogs, it will attract better influencers, who in turn will attract large audiences, which will in effect make the price of steem go up as the pool of people involved gets that much bigger.
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How do i get a steem monsters pinned post?
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Aquire a lot of tokens or buy the vote of those who did and think featuring your content doesn't put at risk the value of their investment.
You can also burn some token to the be "pinned" in the adverts section of Steemit (Promoted).
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I totally agree, i think the best soulutuon should be that 1/3 of ads go to steemit inc 1/3 to content creators and 1/3 get burned so everyone benefits. Content creators, investors and the company.
Only those that never paid a dime to buy steem will complain about ads. I say F em.
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Create a PR :D
https://github.com/steemit/condenser-pinned/blob/master/pinned-posts.json
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Well said, but the question is...
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burn sbd for the "promoted" page, that's where all the activity is
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Yes all of the trending post hide there, LOL
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hopefully this creates marketplace where you can burn steem to purchase ad banner space.... real estate on the trending and hot pages will start to be worth something as the hottest tagged posts get bid on for ad space... the function to burn steem though is key...nothing like reducing the supply to increase the price per coin
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Steemit is a private company, and this is their website - not the blockchain's. So, burning doesn't really make sense. They have to make money somehow.
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That's fine because private individuals have the right to use adblock and the new ads wont even be noticed at all by the users using adblock
And yeah burning stem is so stupid, like wtf dude, this isnt some new proof of work shitcoin were mining here, godamn thats so annoying how people wanna suggest burning steem, like go ahead dude lol gop ahead and give up your money but dont expect someone else to want to jujst give up a bunch of their own wealth for the good of the "group" which is a lie its just for the good of a few other individuals, thats how it always boils down...the group is just a lie to benefit some other individuals...
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Being able to burn steem for these kinds of things would be absolutely incredible
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There's dclick in the works to do something like that. I'm not sure how they are going to be affected by this.
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I will turn my adblockers off for steemit.com
To me, this is progress and shows that they listen to the community.
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Thanks, we appreciate it!
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Yep, got to make some money to keep this ship sailing - We the creators will of course block ads - but our readers will see them, so what can I say.
https://steemit.com/solutions/@fyrstikken/my-3-solutions-for-steemit-inc-to-make-steemit-com-an-asset-and-stop-being-a-liability-for-the-company
Now go through the other suggestions, @ned.
Cheers :)
@fyrstikken
Still here, after many a year.
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Yeah I just mentioned adblock and its funny that steemit inc doesnt realize just how many people use adblock who use steemit.com, its like come on , why doesnt steemit inc embrace their niche, and stop trying to act like just another ordinary startup..... its not and steem needs to FIGHT for their coin on the blockchain leaderboard and bring back our #3 place we had in 2016 at one point.... we need to get back to when we were in the top 15 , we need to stop letting Ned make excuses about how we cant grow untill we can fix the account creation faucet, when that has nothing to do with steem traded on exchanges, we should be pushing binance users to buy steem as an investment, large bitcoin investors should be buying steem as an investment, we need to get new users into those simple websites that let you delegate your steem to sp and earn passive income, i mean theres way sto do that without even needing an account in a non decentralized way like binance or bittrex with memos, so anyway theres so much potential in steem... makes me angry that steem is so cheap... so angry i have to go back to Vaping
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maybe they will do like youtube/google and share 50/50 with creators :)
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Yeah but other than that Im grateful for steem and i know when bitcoin goes up steem goes up, and also the code for hivemind and SMTs is all done just has to be tested and i know it will be finished and we will have some incredible stuff when community and developers flesh it all oiut
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Would have made sense before the bidbots. Now I'm not sure it would help.
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Brave ads? and why cant we use Brave browser to earn some rewards when YT and twitch accounts can?
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That would be my thought. I'm tired of every single decentralized project wanting to reinvent the wheel and not partnering with other projects who have already created a robust solution.
Of course only ~10M people use Brave monthly at the moment so it's a very niche user base, but Steemit could at least partner with Brave so those users who want to be rewarded by Brave could collect ad revenue and share some of it with the Steemit platform. It would be like an ad-bonus to the STEEM rewards, it could even be paid directly in STEEM once they receive BAT from Brave. Users could select how much to share with the platform from 0 to 100% (I'd be happy with a minimum > 0%, more like 10 to 30%).
This would be a great way to extract value from non-Steemit users who visit Steemit posts. If one day Brave is at least as popular as Firefox, which I think is definitely doable, it could be a big deal.
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most viewers of the content on Steemit are non-users (google SERP)
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Source for that? Cause I have a feeling that external traffic has probably plummeted and continues to do so. Alexa seems to agree with me with the plummeting part and also indicates that external traffic sits at around 30 %.
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similarweb showing traffic from searchengines 54%
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Oh, that's just me searching "[Steem handle] Steemit" to get from place to place while on mobile.
Navigation isn't this place's best suite.
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Yeah that's another thing I didn't even think. I have probably used google hundreds of times to find users that I don't exactly remember their nickname, mentions of me, old posts of mine I made a year ago etc etc. I would bet that a large % of google hits are of this nature.
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how about a marketplace for Steem/BAT change? So i could use brave browser and steemit.com could change their BAT into steem so demand stays higher for the Tokens? Ad Networks pay in Fiat, i suppose.
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Ideally, BAT should just become an SMT, swapping from Ethereum to Steem. It really makes way more sense for Brave's token to be an SMT, it just fits their model best.
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Is there a way for us to optin or out of these ads? or be part of the initial testing?
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Great idea! I believe I suggested this long time ago... If you had put on ads eariler maybe you didn't have to lay off 70% of the engineers.
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It's clear you have no idea how adsense ads work which is ok. Perhaps in the past ads would have generated lots of money, but with their history, it's safe to assume they would have used the ad revenue for crack, whores and the occasional expensive haircut.
As for today, at the current state the site is they will just make the website look more shitty, make many of the few users that sticked here even more angry, fuck the serp rankings even more and perhaps generate enough revenue for a pack of cigarettes.
Yeah... As you said, great idea... Actually it's shitty which is a good thing cause they will keep dumping their stake for dirt cheap prices and sooner or later they will be a thing of the past.
P.S.: Now let me seize this opportunity to shill one of my favourite pieces of software, Brave Browser which is integrated with the BAT token. Among other things, it's super fast and blocks annoying ads, including those of Steemit.com.
Learn more at:
https://brave.com
https://basicattentiontoken.org
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/basic-attention-token/
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I think the "occasional expensive haircut" comment needs to be addressed. They are not occasional. They are daily and we have a team of highly trained beauticians that make sure I am in pristine condition each and every morning then also halfway through the day. It is literally a full-time job to look this good.
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I'm surprised that Ned has any hair left after what has been going on.
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Oh, he would never pull me out. I have seen him freak out and "air choke" someone across the room in a meeting like Darth Vader though.
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lol
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Yeah tokens are nice but does it stream porn?
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Yes, and from my experience its the best browser for porn.
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!tipuvote 0.1
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Seems that you have no deposit. Plase send any amount of SBD or STEEM to @tipU to use @tipU services :)
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Many of us have been suggesting it for oh I don't know 2.5 years.
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Well, maybe they are talking about ads for open employment positions. Let me just tell you how hard it is to keep good help around nowadays. I mean I have employees dropping like flies. Seems like every time one of them gets a little dirt on me they go and shoot themselves in the back of the head 5 times.
Now if you are talking about the actual advertising of products and such I may be in contact with you. Keep it under your hat but let's just say I may be running in 2020. Well, maybe running is a bit of false advertising on my part. It may be more like my security detail will be dragging me around like the latter part of Weekend at Bernies. I feel pretty good about my chances this time around. Nothing can stop me now except for maybe a set of stairs or a gradual incline over 3 degrees.
So keep an eye out for a "Hillary for
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I honestly don't know anyone who's shot himself more 4 times at the back of his/her head but I guess its the American factor. The right way to win an election is by telling the masses about your plans and policies but 80% of them are drunk and the other 20% will most likely spend the entire time wondering how it'll be like to have sex with you(my offer still stands like my genital by the way). The second best way is subtle rigging, you basically
sleep withbribe every delegate and everyonestupidinterested enough to come out and vote. For good measure, you should also bribe the police, armed forces and all the weird tech guys that count votes (they'll sleep with you). Bribing is way easier than running.Posted using Partiko Android
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I can only think this is going to backfire. If the steemit interface level starts banning controversial topics that other platforms do to appeal to their advertisers, its become another reddit... except less popular and worse design. Obviously the content will still be on the blockchain regardless.
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I'm sure the views of the three people on Steem without an adblocker will be very lucrative for you.
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three people? is it that bad?
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Steemians have come to enjoy a world without ads over the years. Maybe it's the final push they need to start exploring other front-ends. :)
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Agree!
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Thanks for the update and warning. ;)
I would suggest to give users an option to view ads (default off) but also an incentive to to turn them on by maybe in part buying back Steem and rewarding the most active users or some better ways. Who knows, some could decline the rewards and choose to just support Steemit to keep their main dapp alive.
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That will take time to develop. They can start with a simple solution and improve it later. The most important thing now is to make steemit.com sustainable.
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I was thinking about an ad / reward system a while ago but the thing is rewarding viewers is an infringement to the Terms and Conditions of the ads providers. At least for the major providers I ve checked
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hey stoodkev when are you gonna get rid of your Steemplus chrome plugin's affiliation with the massive ponzi scam known as adsactly that goes around investing into the "community" as a sort oif bribe to make themselves look good using their victims money
its bad to have software affiliated with such a massive ponzi scam like adsactly, steemplus could have malware
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Ah, that makes sense, maybe the users can settle for some burned coins instead. :D
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I have thought the same as it could also demonstrate to those that are buying the ads that there will be traffic due to the incentive. I relate it to what BAT is trying to do within ots Brave browser.
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I agree. Have some of the ad revenue pay the people who turn on the ads.
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Are you OK with it, that they use your content to make money, even when you use another UI?
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That's exactly what should be done: either
a) pay user a flat-rate for viewing ads
b) pay them a flat-rate for allowing ads to be posted within their feed or
c)let them participte in pay-per-click for ads on their feeds/posts
Then it's a win-win-win situation for advertiers, steemit.inc and user
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I wondered if this day would come. The low price must be hitting all the projects and witnesses. Bills need to be paid. I've seen Steemkr has ads. We have other options for a front end as others have said. My main concern is that development continues and we get the people we need on Steem, so I hope you are actively recruiting users too.
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Ads aren't really the problem. We see ads all the time on facebook. Many times, people don't even realize they are seeing ads because they look natural posts. Ads that help users and introduce them to what they want is good in my opinion. The problem is with intrusive ads.
If Steemit adds a ad system that is clean and doesn't disrupt user experience, it will be fine.
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But there are reasons, why I am here and not on facebook. :)
As I suggested in another comment, what about giving (only) these users who allow advertisements a small reward (could be a low percentage from the money the advertisers pay Steemit Inc.)? In addition it would be a very interesting model to let the users decide themselves which advertisements they like to see on their blog (and get paid for it) and which not.
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I do ... but they don't get their account activated these days.
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How about a Premium subscription for users who don't want ads? Akin to Reddit Premium, perhaps with further bonuses / gamification. Maybe they can pay in BTC or fiat directly, so as not to impact Steem/SBD price. Or better still, the subscription can be spent in Steem but burned. (More of a long term benefit for Steemit Inc. and the Steem economy.)
There's going to be a lot of FUD about how Steem now has ads, be prepared for clear communications and clarifications that Steemit.com is only one dApp on Steem.
PS: In fact, I see some in this comments section - imagine the form they'll take outside of Steem.
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Brilliant idea. Of course there are some free solutions like ad blocker, brave browser or simply using another GUI but yeah, I'd take a premium subscription every time, especially considering the good track record of Steemit Inc at handling money.
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None of those solutions help Steemit, though. The Steem network needs them to survive and thrive.
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That's a great suggestion actually. Premium subscription for users who don't want ads.
As long as they don't like the money and start charging every single user ;)
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@steemitblog,
Adding ads might be a good idea, but I wish you might not add pop up ads and will monitor them like FB does!
Small suggestion, some times you could add ads based on topics of the blog! I think it might be a smart way to attract more advertisers in!
Cheers~
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I think this is a fantastic idea. For those who wish to not see ads perhaps they could pay a small fee to have ad free content. Similar to YT. I think this is the best news I have heard from Steemit since joining! Great work guys!
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I think it would be much more motivating to give these users who allow advertisements a small reward (could be a low percentage from the money the advertisers pay Steemit Inc.) instead of letting the other users pay. In addition it would be a very interesting model to let the users decide themselves which advertisements they like to see on their blog (and get paid for it) and which not.
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I absolutely agree with you Jaki01! :D
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but in Steem please.
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Go ahead. We can use busy, steempeak, esteem, partiko, ... when we don't like ads.
Wait a sec, we are using those frontends already. So, good luck with ads.
A reminder ...
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Then keep using them, but stop saying to any other client what should do or shouldn't do.
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Did I say anything like this?
Let me quote myself:
Not
The decision is always yours to make. Always!
The thing is that platforms like Steem separate themselves from traditional platforms by three aspects:
With the first aspect gone ...
This is purely my personal opinion, of course.
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Adding ads doesn't necessarily mean Stinc will be selling data. And Steem still doesn't have any ads nor censorship. They are talking about adding ads on condenser not the Steem blockchain.
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Thank you very much for the downvote. It shows that you care for ... I don't know what.
So, I am not allowed to have my own opinion when this differs to yours? Great approach, congratulations!
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My fault. Let me apologize for it as I misinterpreted what you wrote.
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No problem at all. As long as we talk and let each other talk and listen to each other :)
Have a great weekend.
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But actually, I would say, that ads appeared on whole Steem network, when people started selling votes. If someone will pay $200 to buy votes and to put some content in front of my eyes on trending page... then this is an ad.
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It depends on how you define what an ad is. I guess that in this case Steemit are talking about selling ad space in a form of marketing campaigns. These could be targeted to content and profiled.
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Would you propose a better business model that is sustainable? I mean, that at least generates 2 million in revenue annually?
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I am not in their skin. At the same time, I don't sit on the mountain of Steem Power like they do.
This all leads to one of basic flaws the company made which is a lack of proper financial and marketing plan from the day one onwards.
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Maybe that's what they want. /shrug
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I don't know what they want? Do they?
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I'm just guessing, that's why I said maybe, so how would I know
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It's about time Steemit.Inc - should have happened 18 months ago. Only question - how is the revenue shared with the bloggers?
SirKnight.
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If they don't share the advertising revenue with the bloggers then we have gone full circle back to the Facebook social media model. And we can't compete with Facebook in its own game.
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Seems the STINC doesn't have any good idea how to earn money on the blockchain technology itself. Steem is your baby, maybe you should try to find a way to monetize blockchain instead of putting ADS on the UI.
Car factories earn money on making cars and not printing other logos on them...
What will be next? selling our emails and phone numbers to 3rd parties?
Happy New Year! I really wish you the best!
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I normally never do this, but I'll make an exception for Steemit.
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lol. Thanks!
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Great idea ads are every where and long as they are done with class. It would be a great way to add some cash flow to help things out.
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I suggest ads in videos and ads in the article
increase the power vote decrease price to make many votes in aday
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forget those people who dont want ads. I want a profitable steemit inc that can halt the selling pressure on the exchanges just to stay alive
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Hopefully a way to pay with steem/sbd as well?
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Is this because the incentive scheme inside Steemit is not sustaining the value of steem enough to keep a dev team on board?
Or is this a function of a bear market in the Fiat value of Steem forcing the Steemit team to cut back?
Both are probably true, to which I say: let's play this experiment in community based social networks. Steemit is still in the early phase of the new decentralised digital world. It may not be the standard bearer in the long run but its successes and failures are the stepping stones on which the next free and decentralised social networks will be built.
Remember we had Myspace, and now we have Facebook. And with the latter we can already see the success of their operational model is inversely proportional to users awareness of the exploitation of their privacy.
This leads me to say: "Ads, go ahead if you think so"
Ads are also a vital part of the market forces that make up a healthy economy.
The users will decide in the long run.
I only ask one thing! Do not abuse the privacy of the community.
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Ads on my words? That’s why I use steemit because I can make a few pennies WITHOUT the ads.
👎
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What nobody sees :
You post something on the blockchain, via any interface, steemit takes it and puts ads on it.
They make money with our content.
This is like Facebook taking your pictures and sell them. Oh wait, they don't do it?
At least it will be interesting, what ad service they will be using. And what companies will be advertising..
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Who says they will place ads on posts of Steeminas? Nobody.
They will place small fakebook like ads somewhere on the front end like the trending page (highest post) where it will not disturb user experience at all. Even Reddit does this.
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So monetise the bid bot abuse.. hehe 😁
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You can see the PR for yourself, it will indeed put ads below all comment sections, beside lists of posts on trending/hot/new/promoted/feed pages, and interspersed in trending/hot/new/promoted/feed pages (unless they decide to change that).
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I can't read this code on github.
Below all comment sections, really? That sounds a bit extreme right?
The other places I am fine with as long as they are not bigger than the preview of an article.
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Yep, below all comment sections. However, not everybody will see ads, as right now only logged out users will see ads. You can logout and try it yourself, as the ads have recently been enabled.
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I tried logging out but I still can't find any ads. No adblocker enabled on steemit.com
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Might be a caching issue. I see ads at the bottom of this post:
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should this post be pinned?
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I really wouldn't mind seeing ads here, that's the best way for Steemit to make money and don't fall apart. Just like on Youtube, I don't use adblock because I want to help them grow up and make content great.
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I think that testing this is a good idea!
It is better to take decisions with some data!
Thanks for the update.
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Good move from a sustainability stand point. Is it possible that this ad revenue can be shared with bloggers?
Also, will this slow down the automated steem selling you guys have to do?
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A proactive step to generate revenue which is always a postive. I think they should really look at not just network ads but selling that space to direct brands which is how you really make money on ads, I've seen this from personal experience
I really think a big opportunity is the promote section of the site it could be revamped to be more intuitive and auction based so it keeps changing based on impressions and users can bid for top spot based on CPM or CPC using SBD/STEEM. While it may serve to recycle steem and SBD back to steemit it may also result in other cryptos being sold to buy steem just for better promo opportunities on the site
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The one thing that made Steemit better than Facebook was I didn't have to scroll through ads.
I don't really care that much about the tech that runs the site. I don't care all that much about the money I could potentially make (but never seem to do).
This was the one place that hadn't sold its soul to the advertisers.
Bitterly disappointed.
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relax, it's just a test. should data be checked and it works, then it will be fully implemented.
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I'm going to turn off my adblocker for steemit.
As long as it stays at a normal ad.
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About time we had this, however is it possible we will be able to monetise ads on posts and videos?
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https://steemrush.com/
What is this? Looks like a scam.
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What kind of ads are we talking about? Will it be google adsense? A built in ad system?
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This is what I want to know. I can't imagine Google would be very welcome in the Steem community...
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The "@ned special", obviously.
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Great news.
Finally more and more users will move away from Steemit.com to other ad free frontends.
Anyone who love watching ads online, rise your hand.
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Is this targeted? I find it hard to believe I just randomly got an ad for some Canadian weed related stocks. Muh privacy
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I will stop using Steemit if it shows me ads.
I’ll simply use the websites or apps that show the same posts on Steem blockchain, but without ads.
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That is your right to do so. However, it costs money to run these websites and steemit.inc needs revenue in order to keep operating. Currently they are the largest sellers of steem in order to keep things running. That is not a sustainable model. Would you rather they continue to sell steem and help drive prices down or would you rather there be some ads from time to time? I know which one I would rather have...
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No. They should be raising money just like other businesses do, by going public and through small amounts of debt (if needed). In crypto space, going public is equivalent to an ICO. If they want to raise money from stock market, they should go for IPOs. Then, they can offer their own retail products or charge companies for their services (they can offer them support for integrating a few services with Steem blockchain or promote their posts, which would have the same effects as advertising, but it won’t collect personal data like google adsense). I oppose online advertising only because of privacy concerns. I don’t want my data to be fed to AI and governments/terrorists/hackers.
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Again, so by putting downward pressure on the price of steem by selling more... no thanks. It's time to generate revenue from business activities.
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Wow! You totally understood it. You should be the CFO.
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You know, I was thinking the exact same thing. It warms my heart to know that you agree!
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Then stop whining :P
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Why do you whine when your government pisses you off? It’s to let them know about it. That’s exactly the reason for this blog post. They want people to express their opinions on the issue. You could have understood it, but then again, it’s not uncommon these days to find an idiot online.
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You are one of them :O hahahahaha. Im just a troll, lmao.
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Wow! So insightful.
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Im lovin' it! :D
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LOLOLOLOL
how about fixing steemit. There is absolutely no way ads will improve anything
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I'd like to know the line of thinking behind the incorporation of the ad system. Will the user base be apart of benefiting from the ad system or is this just for steemit?
If you have 500SP it would give you the option to block ads or x amount ads? The more sp you have the more ability to turn off the ads.?
If you leave the ads on while you're above the 500sp mark would you earn a % of the ads revenue?
The more upvotes or comments the more % of the ad revenue you earn?
I know people on both sides of the fence and I think maybe the way it's incorporated is just as important as it being incorporated to the system.
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a bit slow, I tested an ad already and got no clicks from steemit.com lol
but it wont stop me doing it again, have a look in this post and you will see the add. Rights its not AI driven, but it works well on my own site :-)
https://steemit.com/countandcountxindax/@theexcelclub/daxcountandcountx-impactofusingmeasuresandcolumns-ilqq2cs6ie
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I just clicked on it. So you at least have one. 😉
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I'm not a big fan of ads as well. I just hope that it will only be for the short-term until a long-term solution emerges.
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About time! Good move!
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I now see them (nicely) at the bottom of a post which is not really annoying and they are quite accutate to my needs. So looking good.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned before but many of my blogger friends use a company called mediavine and they seem to pay much better rates than googles ads so maybe try them?
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I think it is very good initiative and consultation carried out. I support it, being part of the Community means to collaborate on sustainability, resulting in improvements and permanence in time. Long life to Steemit, improve content to contribute from our part. Well, the fate of one helps the progress of all. Please consult others simply changed without consulting the community, I congratulate you for us, for my with this form of management make the difference. Thank you!
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Just do it... Pursue SMT development.
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Thats great way to generate revenue for steem platform
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can I watch porn on your site?
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Congratulations @steemitblog!
Your post was mentioned in the Steem Hit Parade in the following category:
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Understandably the site needs to make money outside of just dumping Steem, but this seems like a major step backwards. I will be blocking ads, for sure.
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Good job @steemitblog @steemit @ned 😊👏🏼
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Glad to see progress.
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Great news. Steemit could rely only on the price of STEEM. By adding ads, Steemit could become more sustainable...
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Outstanding! Looking forward to this test. Let the community know what you need. Teamwork!
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I'm not too big on the idea,,, but it's not a deal breaker i guess
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Anyone dumb enough to not have an ad blocker by this point, is probably dumb enough to click on them too. So go for it.
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Go💪😁 I'm sure this will work!!!👍😉🍀😁😁😁
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Finally we can have ads now on steemit and I guess that many would not mind it too @steemitblog
Thank you.
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I would much prefere it if you would do reward sharing. This would be much more sustainable and provide real income for operational support.
It would also allow a revenue model for other skins of steem
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Yes very much this!!! We need revenue sharing if we are to attract and keep influencers here on steemit, which will bring large audiences with them.
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This does sound like a good idea, but like everyone else, I don't want to have ads shoved in my face 24/7.
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That's good news. Ads could provide a great potential revenue stream for Steemit Inc as well as content creators. For ads to be more successful, Steem and/or Steemit will need to be changed in a few other ways as well. View counters will need to be returned for posts. Curation rewards will need to be improved, I recommend about 75% for curators and 25% to content creators. The problems with the SBD peg to USD needs to be fixed, this seems a little indirect but it would make a quite a difference in the long-run.
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I don't mind the odd add but popup's for stupid flashing crap will destroy the platform. Also I hope not algorithms will be involved with selecting the add to display !!@ 💯🐒
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It's not the ads that are the problem at all, it's the tracking and data handling that comes along with it.
What is your policy regarding analytics, and which analytics providers, including implicit 3rd party includes, are you using?
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Good luck with this. I hope it helps the steem blockchain to grow.
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Oh wow, so that's why I just saw a banner ad. About time! Lol. Good luck!
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I think ads make way more sense than bidbots. That revenue can be used for lots of good things. If you haven't already, you might take note of Smoke.io It reminds me of how steem used to be. Ads will make more sense with Communities as well. But, unless there is a front page with good content(without bidbots) you just get ads on ads on ads.
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I personally don't want ads. I hate them on social networks. I can accept what Minds.com does, allowing other users to spend crypto to boost a post, but I would hate to see ads drive the majority of revenue for Steem and then in turn watch Steem become subservient to advertisers.
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I can't believe you are going that way? more so now ?!!!!
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I think it is worth a try.
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Hmmmmm, I think the test is good. As I see the effects of this, if here banner non-blockchain content / vendors, but I must first consider in peace. I notice already that there are probably slightly different glasses, but which are also interchangeable. The view of those who want to live from the chain here and the view of those who do not feel like commercial printing, tracking, etc., yes.
I use Steemit anyway only for a few tasks - here still inspires the slim loading time. But if there are banners of providers / content outside the chain, this would be my reason to turn my back on Steemit, I mean. It is quite possible that I would redirect all links on my websites to another frontend. These are all first thoughts on my part.
I mean, we should look at how we generate value with the chain instead of mutating it disgustingly. If even Steemit Inc. can not think of anything better than switching to 2.1 cent advertising, that's a real indictment! Pooh! Ridiculous! There I can see at least 1000 people who are more creative! A shame. A real shame.
And I can not even say "Shall they do ..." - because Steemit is probably still a starting pool for many New Steemians. I think it's sad. I reserve cost pressure and it needs means of continuation. But to miss something of the picture "to whistle from the last hole" and then want to get here such an advertising partner on the chain - yes tell me ... because I miss the words. Sad. THIS is not a signal to the community or investors. It would have been commitment and creativity. What a tragedy ey ... in the FIrma I do not want to sit at the desk ...
I do not feel that is a step in the right direction. But that was only a possible pair of glasses. But probably mine.
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STEEM: freedom of speech, decentralised,
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Steem ≠ Steemit
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Correct, but still steemit.com is a flagship product and the very first product new users do face after joining the board.
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It doesn't matter.
They take your content and sell it.
You use another frontend?
Still, steemit takes your post, your comments and uses it to make money with it.
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In fact, anyone can sell my content. Anyone who is capable of creating a frontend can sell any content they want from the Steem blockchain. It's not like we contribute the content to Steemit. But to the decentralised Steem blockchain.
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What about data protection? Most ads are trackers, and that does not exactly combines well with an "anonymous" platform.
How can an advanced AI like Maid-chan still be an AI save from stupid humans?
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i acutally like the plain design of steemit.com and steeampeak.
I would prefer an instant pitch model, in which active steemians could propose stories for certain products (eg @alphasteem @coruscate @bowentroyer) and then get paid by interaction (upvotes, resteems, comments.)
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Please, put some more emphazis on promoted posts, maybe share more of the rewards from promoted posts with the people who interatec with it, maybe every 10 posts on the feed or new/trending/hot show one of the promoted posts.
I am not against ads, I am against tracking the user, the promoted posts can be a neutral way to display ads, and maybe somehow, like youtube does, share a bit of the price paid from the promoted posts with the users (though the idea of burning the promoted fee is also not bad, maybe do a midterm)
Good luck either way though
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I guess if that will bring more traffic and a way for creators to get a slice of it. Sounds good to me.
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Great news. I look forward to the implementation.
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Seriously?
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Yes. We've been talking about implementing ads for ages. It's not that I'm in favor of ads by default, but they are great way for us to earn some extra revenue. We need that right now.
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Ads always mean tracking...
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No worries, I know how the Internet work ;-)
I’m afraid only about 3rd party companies because this is something I do not have any control.
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Shame they aren't tracking my account in the server logs, I see a lot of abuse on their website they would benefit removing. 😂
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Can you hear that??
It's the sound of the barn door shutting after the horse has bolted.
I'm sorry guys, but this is just pathetic. There were so many good suggestions made by the community when times were high. They were all ignored, and now this limp dick attempt to gain revenue through advertising...
Next you'll be telling us you're going to do some marketing. Or maybe you'll do something about the bidbots in 2 years time.
Meh.
Cg
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This is a welcome development. Let's get the ball rolling quickly.
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I keep having an issue with steemit.com that only started somewhat recently. It occurs in chrome and also on my android device.
It doesn't happen every single time, but once it happens I have to refresh the page to make it work again. What happens is that when I click the tabs, such as wallet, blog, comment etc; the new tab gets focus, but the content of the tab doesn't update.
Notice in the above image that the blog tab is selected, but it is showing my wallet.
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Ned must have left then as he was strongly against that?
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wasnt he open to the idea if they had no other choice?
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I dunno i hope so, i feel for ned hes now just damaging his rep so much now even if he is still around. He just disapears and doesnt care about the people he co created steem for.
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I hope he did. IMO he was driving Steem into the ground. Steem is not sustainable without Steem burning. Look how much Binance burns & the token price has done well.
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I wonder if it’s legal for Steemit to monetize content for which they do not have a license (that is, anything not posted via steemit.com).
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It is unclear from the Terms of Service: https://steemit.com/tos.html
Or at least unclear to me. Are they really monetizing any particular persons content, or just monetizing the Steemit service?
I'd much rather they made it more explicit with an account by account optional revenue sharing. This would be a further incentive to produce quality content.
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How about a AD update?
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Well, steemitblog. There's an upside to this and a downside to this. The upside to this is that Steemit will be able to pay its bills more easily and continue to ensure that Steemians who produce quality posts will get rewarded. The downside to this is that advertisers may step in and delegate to Steemit what can and cannot be posted on this platform. How do I know? I'm also a member of the HubPages writing platform. They use advertising to fund their platform and there is much less flexibility on what you can publish on that platform than what there is here on Steemit. In any event, I do thank you for the heads-up. :-)
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Ads on Steemit go against the idea of Steemit. Steemit provide value in a sense where advertisers dont get their way. Next thing before you know it Advertisers will dictate what content get posted on Steemit.com. I think this is a horrible idea if you really want to stay decentralize.
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How do you propose they pay the bills then?
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@steemitblog please use secure Ad networks though!!
Please see https://steemit.com/steemit/@gaottantacinque/steemit-got-hacked
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Any measurable data report on ads on Steemit for the past year?
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